Cameras Cut Crashes :(

It seems that the DoJ have rejigged their server structure and existing linkys has stopped working
http://www.justice.vic.gov.au//wps/wcm/connect/Road+Safety/resources/file/?C=M;O=D
Then again many parts of the site also dont work at all.

Here is a few bits and pieces of useful stuff

Vic Law regarding digital cameras etc
http://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/Domino/Web_Notes/LDMS/PubLawToday.nsf/b12e276826f7c27fca256de50022686b/1B724B5FD0A8DD93CA2576670035335B/$FILE/09-115sr001.pdf

SGS blurb
http://www.sgs.com/speed_camera_calibration_and_verification_services?serviceId=10090434&lobId=5537

VicGov admission of errors (WRR etc)
http://www.sgs.com/auto_speed_camera_testing_media_release.pdf
Good for future reference for the ‘dont speed, dont get fined’ brigade

By now many would have heard about Trapster

trapster.com

Simple and accurate,  local infomation giving you Speed /Redlight Cameras , Police on patrol and many other road hazards that you are better to be well informed about rather than covert revenue raising.

It’s simple to join up and free to download and install on a range of phones (including the iPhone and most SmartPhones)

Watch this video for CCC cameo -    Ch7 Trapster (6mb)

and audio from RantRadio (3YawN) this morn – ccc_3awBreakfast_trapster
(Of course we know all trapster points are verified by the Community, and any intentionally wrong points are easily removed)

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Hot off the internet comes a live twitter feed with locations of Mobile Speed Cameras.

http://www.twitter.com/melbspeeDcams

Until recently the monthly locations were regularly published on the GovInc website.
It seems now they dont want you to know where is (or is not) safe.

Luckily we have them here for you.
MobileLocationsDec2009.pdf

Google still has a Google cache

We will try to keep the monthly list public, just like their Mobile Camera policy

EDIT – They’re back
January 2010 Mobile locations

Continuing on from previous issues with SGS cars speeding on open roads we now have more video of the SGS test car driving at high speed to complete laps thru the test sites.
Remember these are open roads and a local street limit of 50 or less.

The test cars now turn off their taco when not actually driving thru the test zone, but they seem not to slow down (or care for the limits).

SGS-1 in the mirror

SGS-1, apparently doing 0.0km/h turning the corner…

Today sees several members off to court for a mention case against the Eastlink fines.

Hopefully they will be seen and the case dropped

Rumour has it that many many are going thru the courts now and many cases are dropped

Updates soon, meanwhile here is tonights news report on the cases.
CH9 news

***UPDATE 191009 2pm***

Seems like its a win for common sense
http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/14_rule_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html 

• Changes to the new mobile phone rules
  The new mobile phone rules have been revised. The change now allows both the navigational (GPS) and audio/music functions of a mobile phone to be used, provided the mobile phone is secured in a commercially designed holder fixed to the vehicle.

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Just like most roads ministers, it’s amazing that they all talk large with little vocal opposition, but when they need to do a backflip they run a mile from being public.

Today we have discovered that the 10years revision on the Vic Road Rules (already 12months out of date) have had some significant changes slipped in.
Changes have been made to the wording and direction concerning the use of GPS on a mobile/smart phone.

Mobile phones
Using a mobile phone while driving to make or receive a phone call or listen to audio/music is prohibited except if the phone:
is secured in a commercially designed holder fixed to the vehicle,
or
can be operated by the driver without touching any part of the phone.
Using a mobile phone as a GPS while driving is prohibited except if it is secured in a commercially designed holder fixed to the vehicle.
All other functions (including video calls, texting and emailing) are prohibited.

New Legislation here 
this is THE rule – www.bit.ly/RoadRules2009
Full link (PDF) – Legislation.vic.gov.au/09-094sr.pdf

But Vicroads reading of the fine print is a mess.

Original 
14_rule_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html
14_faq_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html

Revised changes (17.10.09)
14_rule_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html
14_faq_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html

PDF copy of pages – mobile_gps.pdf

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Here we go again.
Another faulty camera happily snapping away at fresh air.

Thanks to contributor Bobman we have this video proving that these cameras can and do get it wrong

Location map
Thomas Street and North Road Ormond.

This issue was picked up by Rant Radio 3YawN as well
http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-breakfast-blog/video-snap-happy-speed-camera/20091016-gzk7.html

After many months of people complaining about the Eastlink cameras and incorrect fines there seems to be a revival of the topic on Melbourne’s Rant Radio – 3YawN next week (Monday apparently)

Here’s some of what’s been going on recently.

Eastlink Site Certificates have recently been updated on the DoJ website
Sadly there is no new information in the pdfs. Why bother to re-upload the files (with new creation dates) if the certificates are the same?

Direct links (as of 13.09.09)
Eastlink-Rowville-Southbound-WellingtonRoadBridge.pdf
Eastlink-Rowville-Northbound-WellingtonRoadBridge.pdf
Eastlink-Keysborough-Southbound-DandenongBypassBridge.pdf
Eastlink-Keysborough-Northbound-DandenongBypassBridge.pdf

Remember these sites were last ‘tested’ on August 11 2009
http://www.camerascutcrashes.com.au/?p=269
Why cant the information be renewed  little quicker?
Many drivers are relying on this paperwork and delays do nothing to resolve their case.

Information contained is stale
Pdfs were refreshed on the Doj site – 13.09.09
Pdfs modified – 19.08.09

Test dates also vary, note the serials are also changing.

More news and updates after the jump. 

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Hot on the PR disaster of last week’s iSnackToo, comes a classic at my new ‘local’ camera site.

Not quite complete yet but the new camera is located to target the easy right hand turning lane that is a low accident area.
I’ve spoken to a number of businesses on ajoining corners and no-one can remember a crash of any type in the recent years.

Also the road surface for the entire intersection has had a full replacement only a couple of years ago.
Infact the work to install the cameras, cabling and road loops has infact made the intersection WORSE than before they started…..

Anyway, here is how NOT to setup a redlight camera installation….

LENS CAP GUYS!!!!!!
(as heard on 3YawN Rumour file)

Last week we had the ‘independent’ testers out to the Eastlink camera site under Wellington Road.

For the trip we fired up the GPS and logged the lot; Speed, Location, Altude and Direction.

Most interesting was the Altitude results.

Heading northbound its pretty clear that over the approaching 1-2kms there is a marked slope down to the underpass (see image below)

NorthBound Altitude Results

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Finally a place to gather information and band together to force the DoJ, VicPol, GovInc & VicRoads to review and renew the faulty system of speed cameras on Eastlink.

Not enough to be hit with a TOLL to use a road but now drivers risk the dreaded letter from Sgt Richey.

Please join the forum and we will endevour to forward to as much media as possible.

 We have the current site certificates and will also build a list of files and photos.

 thanks CCC
(CamerasCutCrashes, I don’t think so!!!)

Forums Now Here (click link for new page)

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Mark today in the calendar (Tuesday 11th August 2009)

SGS have been seen testing the speed camera sites on the Wellington Road overpass on Eastlink.
Testing seemed to be in both directions as the TIRTL’s we setup North and South bound.

Pix -

Links

TIRTL – http://www.ceos.com.au/products/tirtl-content.htm
SGS – http://www.sgs.com/speed_camera_calibration_and_verification_services?serviceId=10090434&lobId=5537
And http://www.sgs.com/sgs-auto-speedcam-26-11-08-en-08.pdf

Now when were they last tested and how often are they usually tests

The biggest question is HOW are they tested??????

CCC has expanded to include its own forums for members to comment and discuss issues relating to Victorian Speed Cameras, especially the troubled Eastlink sites.

Simply register here

Or just browse here

Information is for the site only and will not by used or accessed by any 3rd party.
Comments and suggestions welcome.
First posts will be moderated so be patient and we will get to it ASAP.